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You should probably use the ticketing system now:	James: Would it be possible to alter the long/lat display from the decimal representation to the more usual degrees and minutes representation? Streetmap appears to use this representation.
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* [http://dev.openguides.org/query?component=oxford.openguides.org Existing tickets] * [http://dev.openguides.org/newticket?component=oxford.openguides.org New tickets]	* [http://search.cpan.org/author/PKENT/Geography-NationalGrid-1.6/lib/Geography/NationalGrid.pm Geography::NationalGrid] seems to have a method to do this, so yes. I'll add it to the next release as an option in Preferences. --[[Kake]]
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The RSS feed for recent changes seems to be invalid, according to [http://feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ox.compsoc.net%2Foxfordguide%2F%3Faction%3Drss this feed validator]. Apparently it's being served with the wrong Content-Type and there's confusion as to its encoding. I believe this may be causing [http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=305929 this problem with LiveJournal syndication] - [[PerfDave]]	James: My spelling is bad I know. Is it possible to add some sort of spell check? Even if it's just a list of mispelled words so I can go back and re-edit the entry?
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See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/28 --[[Dom]]	* Not my itch; patches welcome :) --[[Kake]]
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Can we get the edit form to insist that the user includes a comment describing their change? I keep forgetting to include something in this field. - [[PerfDave]]	Dom: Perhaps we need specific metadata entries for URLs to other guides/reviews?
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See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/12 --[[Dom]]	* Could do, yes — I mainly worry about making the edit form overcomplex and huge. But this is something the RDF people are interested in, so I'll probably add it. --[[Kake]]
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Should new [[Comments]] be added to the top or the bottom of this page? - [[PerfDave]]	Dom: I can't decide how streets should work, exactly. I <i>think</i> that all streets should be created as Locale links in text, along the lines of ((Locale Foo Street \| Foo Street)) (those should be square brackets, but the nowiki tag doesn't seem to work). Then if the locales are important they will be clicked on/otherwise created, and used, if not, no harm done. Perhaps we should even have a macro for this. The idea is that you can easily get a list of all things in a specific street. I'm not entirely convinced by all this, though.
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Pass. It's ugly and I'd rather we either used the mailing list or the ticketing system :) --[[Dom]]	James: I think this would probably improve things, it would make it a lot easier for people to properly link their entries. Otherwise having streets as entries forces the author to actually go and edit the entry for a street to link the entry in properly. Just my 2p.
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----	Kake: Making people explicitly write ((Locale Foo Street\|Foo Street)) is a pain though, especially when you can just make Foo Street be a redirect to Locale Foo Street (ie, you only have to do it once).
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Should Colleges be in [[Category The University]]? --[[Dom]]	Dom: Ah, yes, I like this idea even more.
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Square brackets around links to external pages look ugly. Is there any chance of preventing them from being displayed? -- [[James]]	James: How about offering the wanted pages ordered by the number of times they are wanted as well as by alphabetical ordering?
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* Not that I know of. I actually disagree in any case; it's a useful way of distinguishing between internal and external links, so I'd rather the convention was kept. --[[Dom]]	* Oh, nice idea. That'll require a patch to CGI::Wiki, so I'll have a think about it. --[[Kake]]
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* Couldn't that be done within the stylesheet? --[[James]] * Stylesheet sounds like the best plan. I'll look into it unless someone else does first. --[[Kake]] See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/38 --[[Dom]]
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I was wondering if the Clubs category should be renamed Nightclubs, or if it's unlikely that any other sort of club will appear. :) --[[Art]]	James: Are inline images disabled or is this a bug?
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* It's true that Clubs is potentially confusing as it could be used to mean University type clubs (ie societies). --[[Dom]]	* Use img tags — it's done like this so you can put ALT and TITLE text in. --[[Kake]]
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	James: Can the pages please be validatable HTML of some form or another? I'm trying to write a suitable stylesheet and it would make life a little easier, it's just a few loose </P> tags I believe. Should the <div id="... be <div class="... ?
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James: My spelling is bad I know. Is it possible to add some sort of spell check? Even if it's just a list of mispelled words so I can go back and re-edit the entry?	* Can you make me a list of the specific places where things need changing? Also, 'id' is a valid attribute for the 'div' element - it's for things that you only expect there to be one of. http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/structure.html might be of help. --[[Kake]]
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* Not my itch; patches welcome :) --[[Kake]] See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/39 --[[Dom]]
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	Kake: I'd encourage contributors to make themselves a page so people can see who else is using this, for example [[Kake]], [[Dom]], [[James]]. We've found on [http://grault.net/grubstreet/ grubstreet] that it makes the guide feel like more of a community thing.
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Dom: Perhaps we need specific metadata entries for URLs to other guides/reviews? * Could do, yes — I mainly worry about making the edit form overcomplex and huge. But this is something the RDF people are interested in, so I'll probably add it. --[[Kake]] See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/40 --[[Dom]] ---- James: How about offering the wanted pages ordered by the number of times they are wanted as well as by alphabetical ordering? * Oh, nice idea. That'll require a patch to CGI::Wiki, so I'll have a think about it. --[[Kake]] * Might also be nice to replicate [[Wanted Nodes]] as a special case in OpenGuides. --[[Dom]] * Replicate how? --[[Kake]] * I explained myself badly. What I mean is that Wanted Nodes should be a "special" page in OpenGuides, such that it is a place people can submit names of things they want to be added to the guide, and it would be automatically included in the Wanted Pages page, and automatically deleted from both pages when the node exists. In fact, it's probably not that important to even have a list of the pages people have "manually" requested; it would just be a case of having a special case for the "backlink". I hope that makes slightly more sense. --[[Dom]] ---- Information about businesses etc needs a "last checked" field. Otherwise people won't know how reliable it is - this will particularly be a problem for the opening hours and (less so) phone numbers, from experience with another system that records this kind of information. --[[Ganesh]] See http://dev.openguides.org/ticket/1 --[[Dom]] ---- See also [[Comments Archive]].
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James: Would it be possible to alter the long/lat display from the decimal representation to the more usual degrees and minutes representation? Streetmap appears to use this representation.

Geography::NationalGrid seems to have a method to do this, so yes. I'll add it to the next release as an option in Preferences. --Kake

James: My spelling is bad I know. Is it possible to add some sort of spell check? Even if it's just a list of mispelled words so I can go back and re-edit the entry?

Not my itch; patches welcome :) --Kake

Dom: Perhaps we need specific metadata entries for URLs to other guides/reviews?

Could do, yes — I mainly worry about making the edit form overcomplex and huge. But this is something the RDF people are interested in, so I'll probably add it. --Kake

Dom: I can't decide how streets should work, exactly. I think that all streets should be created as Locale links in text, along the lines of ((Locale Foo Street | Foo Street)) (those should be square brackets, but the nowiki tag doesn't seem to work). Then if the locales are important they will be clicked on/otherwise created, and used, if not, no harm done. Perhaps we should even have a macro for this. The idea is that you can easily get a list of all things in a specific street. I'm not entirely convinced by all this, though.

James: I think this would probably improve things, it would make it a lot easier for people to properly link their entries. Otherwise having streets as entries forces the author to actually go and edit the entry for a street to link the entry in properly. Just my 2p.

Kake: Making people explicitly write ((Locale Foo Street|Foo Street)) is a pain though, especially when you can just make Foo Street be a redirect to Locale Foo Street (ie, you only have to do it once).

Dom: Ah, yes, I like this idea even more.

James: How about offering the wanted pages ordered by the number of times they are wanted as well as by alphabetical ordering?

Oh, nice idea. That'll require a patch to CGI::Wiki, so I'll have a think about it. --Kake

James: Are inline images disabled or is this a bug?

Use img tags — it's done like this so you can put ALT and TITLE text in. --Kake

James: Can the pages please be validatable HTML of some form or another? I'm trying to write a suitable stylesheet and it would make life a little easier, it's just a few loose </P> tags I believe. Should the <div id="... be <div class="... ?

Can you make me a list of the specific places where things need changing? Also, 'id' is a valid attribute for the 'div' element - it's for things that you only expect there to be one of. http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/structure.html might be of help. --Kake

Kake: I'd encourage contributors to make themselves a page so people can see who else is using this, for example Kake, Dom, James. We've found on grubstreet that it makes the guide feel like more of a community thing.

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